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		<title>Improving the Quality of Conversation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little did I know that would turn out to be the norm, not the exception. I hate that people are too afraid or too lazy to speak up and chat during instance runs these days. I hate that people only talk when something has gone wrong, someone has died, or someone is doing something seriously wrong. I could sit hear and complain that nobody talks during my dungeon runs and do nothing to change things. Fortunately, I'm not that kind of girl.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_3829" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/silentvigil.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3829 " title="Cassandri at the Silent Vigil in Icecrown" src="http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/silentvigil.jpg" alt="When the silence gets to you..." width="500" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When the silence gets to you...</p></div>
<p>I once wrote that one of <a href="http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/12/15-things-you-should-know-about-the-dungeon-finder/">The 15 things You Should Know About the Dungeon Finder</a> was</p>
<blockquote><p>the less said, the more successful the run will be</p></blockquote>
<p>Little did I know that would turn out to be the norm, not the exception. I hate that people are too afraid or too lazy to speak up and chat during instance runs these days. I hate that people only talk when something has gone wrong, someone has died, or someone is doing something seriously wrong.</p>
<p>When you run the same dungeons over and over again for a year (and counting) the only things that differentiates one run from the next is the group that you&#8217;re with. Some kind of chat also alleviates the boredom of healing. Well it does for me, anyway. I could sit here and complain that nobody talks during my dungeon runs and do nothing to change things. Fortunately, I&#8217;m not that kind of girl. <span id="more-3812"></span>There&#8217;s really only two ways to start a conversation in my experience. Do something so socially embarrassing that people can&#8217;t <em>not</em> say something. Or say something yourself. For the last few weeks I&#8217;ve been making a more concerted effort to start a conversation in my dungeon runs. Most of the time I&#8217;ll just keep talking (and typing) to myself. But sometimes&#8230; it works.</p>
<p>In business networking circles I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d say that I was using &#8220;icebreakers&#8221;. But the word gives me bad vibes so I try not to think of it like that. Here are some things you can say in your next PuG to either:</p>
<ul>
<li>(a) Start a conversation</li>
<li>(b) Change the topic when the conversation goes south<br />
Note: Any discussion about how bad someone&#8217;s gear is or how cool someone&#8217;s main is probably bad.</li>
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<p>There&#8217;s really only the one way to measure success or failure. If you can get just one other person to respond to you in Party chat it&#8217;s a success. An Emoted reply does not count as success. Even one response other than &#8220;go go go&#8221; or &#8220;shut up&#8221; counts.</p>
<h2>Conversation Starters and Rates of Success</h2>
<p><strong>1. What are you listening to on iTunes?</strong></p>
<p>I would have thought this would open up all kinds of friendly chat. I mean, who doesn&#8217;t enjoy some music to liven up their daily heroic? I consider it mandatory, and even included it as part of my buffing/readycheck mental check list. <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48162">Prayer of Fortitude</a>? check. Music? check.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;ve yet to receive anything but silence to this question. I&#8217;ve tried it out about 5 times. In hindsight, I think it might be a bit broad and people are always hesitant to name their favourite band only to find out that other people have never heard of them. I also think a heck of a lot of people like Britney Spears and are too scared to admit it. I&#8217;m sure she didn&#8217;t sell millions of albums all to one person, but whatever.</p>
<p>Or, perhaps, nobody but me uses iTunes.</p>
<p>*Update* Ooooh I just remembered running into a Rogue by the name of &#8220;Octavarium&#8221;. I asked him if he chose his name because he likes the Dream Theatre album, and then asked the party to wait while I switched my iTunes playlist. I guess some people have built in conversation starters <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>2. Poking fun at NPCs or complaining</strong></p>
<p>If you said &#8220;Brann is a fuckwit&#8221; you might not get a response. But I almost always make some remark about how short Brann is, how he talks too much and how he ought to learn how to run* when I&#8217;m in Halls of Stone (ie. every second day). And I always get <em>some</em> kind of reply.</p>
<p>So that one counts as a success. The <em>quality</em> of the reply might be pretty poor and it might not really start an actual conversation. But it&#8217;s better than silence, right?</p>
<p><strong>3. Ragging on the 1 DPS that&#8217;s outperforming everyone else</strong></p>
<p>See that Warrior in your party pulling 8k DPS? Don&#8217;t kiss their feet. Don&#8217;t suck up or /bow (that&#8217;s plain creepy). Instead try:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gee I don&#8217;t know. I think we should kick Bladez since they can&#8217;t reach 10k. It&#8217;s just not good enough for a heroic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even though you might only get a few chuckles and &#8220;LOL&#8221;s out of your other party members, I like this one because it combines conversation with a compliment cleverly woven right in. So this one counts as a success in my book.</p>
<p><strong>4. Greeting your fellow players with &#8220;Morning&#8221; or &#8220;Afternoon&#8221; instead of &#8220;hi&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Perhaps this only really works on the Bloodlust battlegroup since we&#8217;re a mix of American and Oceanic servers but at any given time chances are someone in your party is actually playing at the complete +12hour opposite time of day to you.</p>
<p>Opening with &#8220;Good morning&#8221; at 11am in the morning can net you some surprising results. If you&#8217;re lucky it can lead into other players disclosing what country they&#8217;re playing from. You might even be able to compare latencies (although, as an Aussie I believe you&#8217;re generally better off just not knowing).</p>
<p>This one is a bit hit or miss. But it definitely pays off when you come across that rare individual that doesn&#8217;t realise the world is round.</p>
<p><strong>5. How much are Dream Shards selling for on your server?</strong></p>
<p>This is my favourite conversation opener. And I&#8217;ll ask it the moment someone chooses to &#8220;Disenchant&#8221; a rare Axe that vendors for 15g. Based on what the 10 or 15 people who have replied so far&#8230; nobody has any clue. Most people give reasons like &#8220;I use the Shards&#8221; or &#8220;I give them to my mates&#8221; and most common &#8220;I dunno&#8221;.</p>
<p>Wake up people! <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34052">Dream Shards</a> on the Barthilas Auction House are 3g 50s. Some of the prices quoted from other servers have put them at 5 to 8 gold. Most blues in dungeons vendor more than 5g and weapons in particular can vendor for over 20g.</p>
<p>Check the vendor price and choose Greed and vendor the valuable drops. Bracers and Gloves are usually the only armor pieces that vendor for 3-5g and should be converted into Dream Shards. If you still want more Dream Shards, just buy them cheap from the Auction House.</p>
<p>This has been my <em>most</em> successful conversation starter because it generally leads to a proper conversation of up to about 6 lines of chat (oh my god!). And its always gotten me some kind of response.</p>
<p>* Apparently, <a href="http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/patch-3-3-2-patch-notes/">Brann <em>has</em> learned how to run</a> which should speed up the escort part of the Tribunal of Ages in the next patch. Shame that it&#8217;s not going to speed up the actual Tribunal of Ages event. When you have to drop totems twice in one instance boss fight &#8211; it&#8217;s too long.</p>
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