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		<title>By: Josefa</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-19994</link>
		<dc:creator>Josefa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly where did u acquire the recommendations to post 
““Virtuosos” &lt;a href=&#039;http://baipu.info&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baipu&lt;/a&gt; ?

Regards -Heike</description>
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““Virtuosos” <a href='http://baipu.info' rel="nofollow">baipu</a> ?</p>
<p>Regards -Heike<br />
<span class="cluv">Josefa&#8217;s last post: <a class="e2a957f2f5 19994" rel="nofollow" href="http://tinyurl.com/bingkenny27671">Josefa</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: What do you do when you’ve become a WoW master? — MMO Melting Pot</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16114</link>
		<dc:creator>What do you do when you’ve become a WoW master? — MMO Melting Pot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of MMO players are well beyond that level, and hence are now genuine WoW masters.And Cassandri’s thinking about that statement today . Where do you go once you’re an MMO master? Do you lose that mastery? Where do you go to find a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of MMO players are well beyond that level, and hence are now genuine WoW masters.And Cassandri’s thinking about that statement today . Where do you go once you’re an MMO master? Do you lose that mastery? Where do you go to find a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pliers</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16100</link>
		<dc:creator>Pliers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem with having attained a level of mastery or expertise is that you make it the standard by which you judge yourself.

To continue the running analogies, when I take a break for a while, starting back up is always the hardest part. Not because of the decreased endurance, the pain, or the mental strength required, but because I know what it feels like to run fast and effortlessly, and it&#039;s hard to operate at the proper pace for that given day, instead of months down the road.

As far as 10,000 hours goes, it&#039;s an absurd principle.

Ever have trouble sleeping? Weird, since you should have been a &quot;master of sleep&quot; by the time you were 6 months old. Do you have trouble using a toilet? It&#039;d take hundreds of years for you to get enough practice to be an &quot;expert&quot;, but I assume you don&#039;t struggle with it much. Using a label like that ignores complexity, difficulty, potential, and upkeep. 

There&#039;s a saying that &quot;practice makes perfect&quot;. And there&#039;s a better saying that says &quot;perfect practice makes perfect.&quot; Striving to do your best will improve the level you can operate at. When you change your focus, stop trying as hard, or spend less time, you won&#039;t be playing at the same level. But, other than physical limitations, you could get back to the point you were.

Every skill requires maintenance. The more complex, challenging, time consuming, etc, the task, the more maintenance it requires. There&#039;s a reason why Olympians keep training, why authors throw out or rewrite the vast majority of their work, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem with having attained a level of mastery or expertise is that you make it the standard by which you judge yourself.</p>
<p>To continue the running analogies, when I take a break for a while, starting back up is always the hardest part. Not because of the decreased endurance, the pain, or the mental strength required, but because I know what it feels like to run fast and effortlessly, and it&#8217;s hard to operate at the proper pace for that given day, instead of months down the road.</p>
<p>As far as 10,000 hours goes, it&#8217;s an absurd principle.</p>
<p>Ever have trouble sleeping? Weird, since you should have been a &#8220;master of sleep&#8221; by the time you were 6 months old. Do you have trouble using a toilet? It&#8217;d take hundreds of years for you to get enough practice to be an &#8220;expert&#8221;, but I assume you don&#8217;t struggle with it much. Using a label like that ignores complexity, difficulty, potential, and upkeep. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a saying that &#8220;practice makes perfect&#8221;. And there&#8217;s a better saying that says &#8220;perfect practice makes perfect.&#8221; Striving to do your best will improve the level you can operate at. When you change your focus, stop trying as hard, or spend less time, you won&#8217;t be playing at the same level. But, other than physical limitations, you could get back to the point you were.</p>
<p>Every skill requires maintenance. The more complex, challenging, time consuming, etc, the task, the more maintenance it requires. There&#8217;s a reason why Olympians keep training, why authors throw out or rewrite the vast majority of their work, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16070</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re missing a piece of the puzzle, actually :)  Once you&#039;ve become a master at something, even if your skills get rusty from lack of use, you have two things that a novice doesn&#039;t have - a base-level of skill that is higher than the novice, and the ability to compare your performance now to your past performance.  

A few years ago, I took up running, from pretty much never having done any kind of physical activity.  The first year was hard, because I had a very low base level of fitness and no idea what I was doing wrong.  About a year in, I could run 3km non-stop if I tried really hard, but I was exhausted.  I decided to train for a half-marathon (21.1km), and doing that training taught me what I was doing wrong - I was trying to run too fast, my form was bad, and I didn&#039;t train often enough.  

I finished the half-marathon 18 months ago, and I have been lax at running lately.  I am still in a superior position now to the position that novice-me was at when I started running though - I know the speed that I should train at, I know how good form feels, and I know that if I keep training 3 times a week and building up my mileage, I am capable of running that distance.  It is easier for me to get back to my mastery-level because of this.

I would compare this to WoW - in your current position, you have a much higher base-level of skill than a novice, and you can see that you&#039;re not as good as you were.  If you wanted to get back to master-level, you would put in the effort to min-max your gear, perfect your rotation for the new class structure, and practice, and it would be faster for you than for a novice :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing a piece of the puzzle, actually <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Once you&#8217;ve become a master at something, even if your skills get rusty from lack of use, you have two things that a novice doesn&#8217;t have &#8211; a base-level of skill that is higher than the novice, and the ability to compare your performance now to your past performance.  </p>
<p>A few years ago, I took up running, from pretty much never having done any kind of physical activity.  The first year was hard, because I had a very low base level of fitness and no idea what I was doing wrong.  About a year in, I could run 3km non-stop if I tried really hard, but I was exhausted.  I decided to train for a half-marathon (21.1km), and doing that training taught me what I was doing wrong &#8211; I was trying to run too fast, my form was bad, and I didn&#8217;t train often enough.  </p>
<p>I finished the half-marathon 18 months ago, and I have been lax at running lately.  I am still in a superior position now to the position that novice-me was at when I started running though &#8211; I know the speed that I should train at, I know how good form feels, and I know that if I keep training 3 times a week and building up my mileage, I am capable of running that distance.  It is easier for me to get back to my mastery-level because of this.</p>
<p>I would compare this to WoW &#8211; in your current position, you have a much higher base-level of skill than a novice, and you can see that you&#8217;re not as good as you were.  If you wanted to get back to master-level, you would put in the effort to min-max your gear, perfect your rotation for the new class structure, and practice, and it would be faster for you than for a novice <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Redbeard</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16064</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you may be over 21, but you&#039;re still a young pup to me.

I try not to watch the TED talks, mainly because I find myself talking back to the screen like when I&#039;m watching a really bad movie.  Of course, that&#039;s part of the point --to start discussion-- but I&#039;ve discovered that my opinions are formed from a lot more cynicism than a fancy Powerpoint stack.

As you discovered, it&#039;s a bit of a rollercoaster ride trying to maintain a high level of performance.  This happens in diverse activities, too:  I remember when a fellow experienced coder moved to a managerial position, after about 3-4 months he discovered he&#039;d truly lost his edge since he spent all of his time managing people rather than doing what he loved (coding).  Unless you&#039;re willing to be consistent in &lt;strike&gt;training&lt;/strike&gt;playing times, this sort of thing is bound to happen.

Don&#039;t let the haters get ya, because it&#039;s all a tradeoff.  Nobody can maintain everything indefinitely, and only those too blind to see will tell you otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you may be over 21, but you&#8217;re still a young pup to me.</p>
<p>I try not to watch the TED talks, mainly because I find myself talking back to the screen like when I&#8217;m watching a really bad movie.  Of course, that&#8217;s part of the point &#8211;to start discussion&#8211; but I&#8217;ve discovered that my opinions are formed from a lot more cynicism than a fancy Powerpoint stack.</p>
<p>As you discovered, it&#8217;s a bit of a rollercoaster ride trying to maintain a high level of performance.  This happens in diverse activities, too:  I remember when a fellow experienced coder moved to a managerial position, after about 3-4 months he discovered he&#8217;d truly lost his edge since he spent all of his time managing people rather than doing what he loved (coding).  Unless you&#8217;re willing to be consistent in <strike>training</strike>playing times, this sort of thing is bound to happen.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the haters get ya, because it&#8217;s all a tradeoff.  Nobody can maintain everything indefinitely, and only those too blind to see will tell you otherwise.<br />
<span class="cluv">Redbeard&#8217;s last post: <a class="1e96236c99 16064" rel="nofollow" href="http://parallelcontext.blogspot.com/2011/10/dancing-with-myself.html">Dancing With Myself</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16061</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two good friends who are musicians. One of them plays in the Vienna philharmonic, so he&#039;s pretty badass... but he still practices almost every day. In music, there&#039;s no way to keep that level of skill without practice.

I think that&#039;s valid for WoW too, and it doesn&#039;t only apply to taking breaks. It takes me a while to get used to my main even if I play an alt for a few days. I think it&#039;s perfectly normal and to be expected... I try to take my druid for a ride in a heroic if I feel I&#039;m rusty before a raid and it usually works. That, and telling myself: &quot;Druid, remember, Barkskin. And HoTs. No totems. HoTs.&quot;

(And you can forget how to ride a bike! Maybe the essentials will be there, but after a break you&#039;ll need to relearn the &quot;tricks&quot; like riding with no hands.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two good friends who are musicians. One of them plays in the Vienna philharmonic, so he&#8217;s pretty badass&#8230; but he still practices almost every day. In music, there&#8217;s no way to keep that level of skill without practice.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s valid for WoW too, and it doesn&#8217;t only apply to taking breaks. It takes me a while to get used to my main even if I play an alt for a few days. I think it&#8217;s perfectly normal and to be expected&#8230; I try to take my druid for a ride in a heroic if I feel I&#8217;m rusty before a raid and it usually works. That, and telling myself: &#8220;Druid, remember, Barkskin. And HoTs. No totems. HoTs.&#8221;</p>
<p>(And you can forget how to ride a bike! Maybe the essentials will be there, but after a break you&#8217;ll need to relearn the &#8220;tricks&#8221; like riding with no hands.)<br />
<span class="cluv">Jen&#8217;s last post: <a class="207466a42d 16061" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.storiesofwow.com/one-month-of-cataclysm/">One month of Cataclysm</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Windsoar</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2011/10/virtuosos/comment-page-1/#comment-16060</link>
		<dc:creator>Windsoar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m definitely in the practice camp. While some things, like how to start a character, navigate the game world, and generally learn how to orient yourself to playing the game is *definitely* like riding a bike, being at the top of your game requires consistency as the game continues to change over time. 

I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a bad thing, but it&#039;s definitely disconcerting to have a break (for whatever reason) while you&#039;re in a peak position to come back and find yourself re-learning some things about your class. I think this is why I tend to start new characters after a break. It gives me plenty of time to master something new instead of leaving me frustrated as I relearn a class I *remember* playing really well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely in the practice camp. While some things, like how to start a character, navigate the game world, and generally learn how to orient yourself to playing the game is *definitely* like riding a bike, being at the top of your game requires consistency as the game continues to change over time. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a bad thing, but it&#8217;s definitely disconcerting to have a break (for whatever reason) while you&#8217;re in a peak position to come back and find yourself re-learning some things about your class. I think this is why I tend to start new characters after a break. It gives me plenty of time to master something new instead of leaving me frustrated as I relearn a class I *remember* playing really well!<br />
<span class="cluv">Windsoar&#8217;s last post: <a class="e6906b222c 16060" rel="nofollow" href="http://jadedalt.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/minipost-ignored/">Minipost: Ignored</a></span></p>
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