If you can get it off the ground on Barth, the collective community of non committed raiders would come out of the woodwork.

see

http://www.wow.com/2008/07/16/15-minutes-of-fame-more-than-mere-leftovers/
http://leftoversraiding.org/index.php

A raiding community is generally aiming for 25mans, but is comprised of guilds whose members lack in number to actually run them. So 3-5 guilds cooperate to run 25mans, submitting to being in a greater “identity” that is the community, but remain within their own guilds and usually run 10mans with guildies.

The advantage of this is that it makes recruiting easier – anyone in any guild (assuming their guild is ok with it) who has the skill, gear and dedication can join a community. I am not sure if there are any real disadvantages, to be honest.

A raiding alliance (as the term is used mostly on my server) consists of two small guilds who want to do 10mans but lack signing members to do so. Usually each guild was once fully capable of 10mans, but as the content became more available, the number of 10man guilds exploded. Competition for members meant that guilds usually grew much smaller, forcing the smallest guilds to cooperate to get 10mans going.

As for Pugging – which is quite different from a raiding community or Alliance – there are two things very important. If you have the achievement for the place you want to pug, that’s never wrong. Stating you have “4pT10″ or “5k DPS” helps for those people who need a quick fix.

A thing you could try (no idea if you were doing that already, sorry if I missed it) is to be in the location of the raid you want to run (such as in front of ICC) and putting your “group call” into /general.

While doing this you can also list yourself in the raid browser (Hit O -> Raid -> Raid Browser), listing yourself for all raids you feel like doing (in the 10 and 25man section) and putting your usual self-advertisment into the comments window.
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Back when I mostly pugged, mine usually look something like this:

Lfg Icc10. Geared Ele, 7/10 ach. Pst

I pref to keep it short so ppl actually read it. It’s hard to tell why someone doesn’t want a specific class/spec so if the rl sounds like they might reply it could be good to ask them exactly why.

ps. ’4 set t10′ looks better than ’4/5′

4/5 Tier 10 Spriest LF ICC10 run – 6 boss clear minimum. No tools need reply.

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How’s it work? Well, nobody’s ever going to mistake Silver Hand for a cutting edge raiding server, but I have ‘Celestial Defender’ on my rogue, and the realm announcement for that one had a truly absurd number of different guilds in it. (Over 10.)

Cass, oh Cass…. your marketing of yourself wasn’t good

If I saw you post that in trade, I probably wouldn’t accept you either. Although I’d maybe be nice about it and say that I only wasn’t accepted shadow priests and that it wasn’t just specifically you

If you come across as too nice, e.g. offering to not roll on gear, then they’re going to think you’re desperate. If you’re desperate then they’ll think there must be a reason for it, and decline you on principal (unless you’re a tank / healer / shaman, then they’re probably equally desperate to get you in lol)

Main thing, is to just be a little bit of an arrogant prick when you’re looking for a group. Remember, they need you just as much or more than you need them. Since you’re well geared and know the fights, which puts you ahead of 95% of the randoms who will /w or /wave at them.

So just tell them that you can come along to “help out” or something like that (nicely of course, don’t wanna sound too much like a prick), so long as you make icc10 sound trivial to you, then they will try to convince you to come not the other way around.

Give it a go