By Raiding Alliances I don’t mean “LOL lets go kill the Stormwind Auctioneers!” I mean, when people talk about being part of a “collective” or a raiding group bigger or outside of their guild, how does it function?
How many people are in it? Do raids run at scheduled times? Is everything just /roll-ed on? What’s the incentive to join a raiding collective over a regular or casual raiding guild? Do they have a website?
And, most importantly, how the heck does it differ from your typical Pick up Group?
I sincerely hope that you didn’t come to this post looking for answers, because I have none. I’m hoping that some of our readers might be able to fill me in.
How do I find out if there’s a collective already running on my server, or even if there’s one on another server if I was willing to transfer?
In my mind I picture some loosely formed private chat channel “BarthilasCollective” or some such rubbish (you could call it “FluffyPinkBunnyRaiding” of course – actually lets stick with that) where, if you happen to be online at a time when some intrepid soul is willing to Raid Lead, you might see something like:
[5. FluffyPinkBunnyRaiding] LFM ICC25 – healers especially
Looks a lot like your average Trade Channel spam. Of course the members of the collective probably don’t need to be worried about having their loot ninja’ed right out of their hands, and there’s probably some assurance that the group will comprise of fairly skilled players.
But, at the end of the day, isn’t it a glorified chat channel and the luck to be online at the right time?
I swear I’m never online at the right time. Since Thursday last week, when I missed my guild 10 man ICC run by 20 minutes, I’ve been keeping an eye out looking for a promising PuG run.
80% of PuGs forming advertise like so:
[2. Trade] LFM ICC10 – need 1 tank and 3 geared healers!
About 10% read like so:
[2. Trade] LFM ICC10 – need 3 healers and 2 ranged (hunter prefered)
And about 10% read like so:
[2. Trade] LFM ICC10 – need all!
I usually try and weasel my way into those 10% of Pick Up Groups still looking for ranged DPS when I’m PuGging – and try and convince them that although I’m clearly not a Hunter, I do a pretty good job anyway. I tried to do that last night by asking very politely:
To [Slippy]: Do you have any room for a Shadow Priest in your run?
On this occasion I actually got a reply, which is a step up from being ignored:
[Slippy] whispers: No sry
Which I was fine with until I spotted Slippy’s ammended macro:
[2. Trade] LFMICC10 – need 3 healers and 2 ranged (pref hunter, lock, mage, boomkin)
I kid you not. He listed pretty much every single ranged class except Shadow. I took a deep breath. No, Cass, the other kids don’t want to play with you today.
I assume that there was another Shadow Priest already in the run, or even more likely a Shadow Priest forced to heal, who would have had a tantrum if another Shadow Priest was invited to the group. I can understand that. If they’d just given me a chance I would have assured them that I would happily pass on all drops… just for a chance at the Emblems.
So I monitored Trade chat for a bit longer and noticed a Warlock trying to do the same as me – find a 10 man Icecrown run:
[2. Trade] Geared lock, 5.4GS, LF ICC10!
I thought about whispering him, trying to either recruit or piggyback my way into whatever 10 man he stumbled in to, but decided that might be a bit much to ask of a perfect stranger.
So I decided instead to follow his example. I’m a smart girl! And I used to work in marketing, I should know how to sell myself (er, you know what I mean) and get noticed from all the fluff in Trade chat.
First off, I decided to advertise in LookingForGroup. That’s what the goddamn channel is designed for after all. Mistake. Oh yeah, I don’t have GearScore and have absolutely no freaking idea what my gear score would be anyway.
[4. LookingForGroup] [Cassandri] Shadow Priest of unknown GearScore LF ICC10 – I promise not to steal all the clothy drops
Unfortunately I got no reply in that particular channel, so I dropped principles and readvertised in Trade. I guess you could argue that I was offering up my time in exchange for loot and emblems – that’s still something of a Trade.
[2. Trade] [Cassandri] Shadow Priest of unknown GearScore LF ICC10 – I promise not to steal all the clothy drops
I really just wanted Slippy and his Shadow Priest to reconsider me for their raid. No go. I didn’t even get people offering to tell me my GearScore.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have mentioned “not stealing gear”. Does it make me sound suspicious? Like I’m trying to counteract a reputation for ninja-ing?
A bit deflated by all this lack of attention I logged off and came back to try again a hour later. This time I skipped the runs wanting every ranged class except for Shadow Priests and jumped on the “need all” type groups.
It started off with 3 people when I joined. 30 minutes later we had 4 and a half (someone was disconnected – hopefully temporarily). Another 15 minutes and the Raid Leader, the guy who invited me, left the raid. I gave up.
If something exists between the totally organised, you-know-what-quality-you’re-getting guild run, and the randomness of PuG raids, I want to know about it!
By the way, I thoroughly apologise for using that hideous tan pale pink colour on this website. I don’t know what Blizzard were thinking when they set the default chat channel colour to such an awful pastel. The only good thing is that you can re-colour them. And you should.
* All character names are totally made up, not to protect the identity of the player, but because I honestly don’t remember who said what.