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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1500</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPS can be incredibly frustrating when you feel you have hit the ceiling of what you can achieve. Unfortunately I&#039;m still getting my head around itemisation for an Ele Shaman - so I can&#039;t help you there.

I, too, have read the EJ post that recommends clipping Flame Shock to Lava Burst ASAP. 

DPS is very competitive. Which is good when you think you have room to improve. Fortunately I can recognise all the little mistakes in my performance when they happen - so I&#039;m always eager to try again (after a wipe) in the hopes that I&#039;ll make less mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPS can be incredibly frustrating when you feel you have hit the ceiling of what you can achieve. Unfortunately I&#8217;m still getting my head around itemisation for an Ele Shaman &#8211; so I can&#8217;t help you there.</p>
<p>I, too, have read the EJ post that recommends clipping Flame Shock to Lava Burst ASAP. </p>
<p>DPS is very competitive. Which is good when you think you have room to improve. Fortunately I can recognise all the little mistakes in my performance when they happen &#8211; so I&#8217;m always eager to try again (after a wipe) in the hopes that I&#8217;ll make less mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Clickityclop</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1498</link>
		<dc:creator>Clickityclop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that the ele &#039;rotation&#039; is easy (it&#039;s not quite a rotation but lets just call it that for simplicity&#039;s sake), but somehow I just don&#039;t pull as much dps as what I&#039;d expect of my gear. I suspect it maybe be due to my horrible and proc based trinkets. I&#039;ve tried stacking of sp in my gemming, and i&#039;ve tried stacking haste to 1020, but neither seemed to net any greater dps. Even on a dummy I get incredibly irregular levels of dps .

Somehow even with my rotation perfect and on a fight with little movement I&#039;m still below everyone else in the guild, I always feel like I&#039;m at my limit of what I can pull in my gear, but then I see other ele shammies in similar or lower gearscore (yea i know it&#039;s poor indication of actual gear level) pulling similar or better.

As a healer on the other hand, I almost never feel inferior, even against healers that far outgear me, especially when compared with other resto shamans. Sometimes I get the feeling that  there&#039;s a lot more that I can personally do to push my healing above an average player&#039;s: I can set up better raid frames, click-casting, hots/debuff monitor as well as knowing my spells and utilising more than just my Chain Heal. While as ele there&#039;s really not much I can do to significantly push my dps.

Btw as for clipping FS, from what I&#039;ve read, it&#039;s better to clip it early than to be late with a LvB. Can&#039;t be bothered to dig it back up but I saw it either on EJ or MMO-Champs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that the ele &#8216;rotation&#8217; is easy (it&#8217;s not quite a rotation but lets just call it that for simplicity&#8217;s sake), but somehow I just don&#8217;t pull as much dps as what I&#8217;d expect of my gear. I suspect it maybe be due to my horrible and proc based trinkets. I&#8217;ve tried stacking of sp in my gemming, and i&#8217;ve tried stacking haste to 1020, but neither seemed to net any greater dps. Even on a dummy I get incredibly irregular levels of dps .</p>
<p>Somehow even with my rotation perfect and on a fight with little movement I&#8217;m still below everyone else in the guild, I always feel like I&#8217;m at my limit of what I can pull in my gear, but then I see other ele shammies in similar or lower gearscore (yea i know it&#8217;s poor indication of actual gear level) pulling similar or better.</p>
<p>As a healer on the other hand, I almost never feel inferior, even against healers that far outgear me, especially when compared with other resto shamans. Sometimes I get the feeling that  there&#8217;s a lot more that I can personally do to push my healing above an average player&#8217;s: I can set up better raid frames, click-casting, hots/debuff monitor as well as knowing my spells and utilising more than just my Chain Heal. While as ele there&#8217;s really not much I can do to significantly push my dps.</p>
<p>Btw as for clipping FS, from what I&#8217;ve read, it&#8217;s better to clip it early than to be late with a LvB. Can&#8217;t be bothered to dig it back up but I saw it either on EJ or MMO-Champs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the first thing I think of reading your comment is how different every single situation is as DPS (or perhaps just as a Shadow Priest) - how I play is dependant on so many changing factors: how many targets, how much health each on has, how good is the DPS around me etc. The duration of the fight/target is so important as a DoT class, it just hasn&#039;t gotten boring yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the first thing I think of reading your comment is how different every single situation is as DPS (or perhaps just as a Shadow Priest) &#8211; how I play is dependant on so many changing factors: how many targets, how much health each on has, how good is the DPS around me etc. The duration of the fight/target is so important as a DoT class, it just hasn&#8217;t gotten boring yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnomeaggedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 targets = AoE
5 targets = AoE
2 targets = AoE
1 target = AoE

Blizzard promised me I would be the king of AoE, so I am damn well going to use it.

Don&#039;t worry... the one with the mark on it&#039;s head will be in there somewhere... while the other 9 run straight at me.

Only pause between casts if you are coming back from the fridge with a new beer.

Spell Queuing tip:
Pre-press the key you know you are going to press to unleash havoc.

A Pressed (and held) key does not set of the spell... releasing the key does.
It is much faster to lift your finger off the key like you just got burnt than to find it and press it.

Chain lightning should be used at every possible opportunity, even when Resto... it&#039;s looks pretty (bloody awesome)!
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/02/12/i-dont-have-time-right-now/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I don’t have time right now…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 targets = AoE<br />
5 targets = AoE<br />
2 targets = AoE<br />
1 target = AoE</p>
<p>Blizzard promised me I would be the king of AoE, so I am damn well going to use it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8230; the one with the mark on it&#8217;s head will be in there somewhere&#8230; while the other 9 run straight at me.</p>
<p>Only pause between casts if you are coming back from the fridge with a new beer.</p>
<p>Spell Queuing tip:<br />
Pre-press the key you know you are going to press to unleash havoc.</p>
<p>A Pressed (and held) key does not set of the spell&#8230; releasing the key does.<br />
It is much faster to lift your finger off the key like you just got burnt than to find it and press it.</p>
<p>Chain lightning should be used at every possible opportunity, even when Resto&#8230; it&#8217;s looks pretty (bloody awesome)!<br />
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/02/12/i-dont-have-time-right-now/" rel="nofollow">I don’t have time right now…</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ercles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ercles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having played quite a lot of end game both as DPS and a healer (hurr-di-hurr, look at me) I still find healing more challenging.

When I DPS it&#039;s often about figuring out how to do the most DPS possibly, then perfecting it. It stops being as challenging and interesting when I&#039;m past the figuring out part. 

Playing a healer feels a lot less static. I&#039;m constantly making decisions on the fly and no fight is the same. Even though a fight goes smoothly it doesn&#039;t feel the same as it did the last time I did it. As a DPS it feels almost identical when you&#039;ve figured out the most efficent way of doing the fight. There&#039;s a lot less improvisation involved.

That said, I love doing both and I&#039;m not trying to slag anyone. DPS just tends eventually grow old, while I&#039;m constantly being challenged as a healer. For someone else, things might be the other way around. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having played quite a lot of end game both as DPS and a healer (hurr-di-hurr, look at me) I still find healing more challenging.</p>
<p>When I DPS it&#8217;s often about figuring out how to do the most DPS possibly, then perfecting it. It stops being as challenging and interesting when I&#8217;m past the figuring out part. </p>
<p>Playing a healer feels a lot less static. I&#8217;m constantly making decisions on the fly and no fight is the same. Even though a fight goes smoothly it doesn&#8217;t feel the same as it did the last time I did it. As a DPS it feels almost identical when you&#8217;ve figured out the most efficent way of doing the fight. There&#8217;s a lot less improvisation involved.</p>
<p>That said, I love doing both and I&#8217;m not trying to slag anyone. DPS just tends eventually grow old, while I&#8217;m constantly being challenged as a healer. For someone else, things might be the other way around. <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lissanna</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1435</link>
		<dc:creator>lissanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, on trash mobs, I hurricane first and then do a head-count. Too bad that the big cloud is such a give-away when they only pull 1 or 2 things. I&#039;ve started getting better at head-count first, then DPS.
.-= lissanna&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.restokin.com/2010/02/its-recruit-a-friend-not-recruit-a-stranger/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s Recruit a Friend, NOT recruit a Stranger&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, on trash mobs, I hurricane first and then do a head-count. Too bad that the big cloud is such a give-away when they only pull 1 or 2 things. I&#8217;ve started getting better at head-count first, then DPS.<br />
.-= lissanna&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://www.restokin.com/2010/02/its-recruit-a-friend-not-recruit-a-stranger/" rel="nofollow">It’s Recruit a Friend, NOT recruit a Stranger</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elemental shamans are fun to play! you can easily tell the difference between a good and great one! :) I usually let my flameshock tick for its last duration then re-apply and lavaburst. 

Sacrificing ToW for fire ele is ok if there isnt 5 mages/warlocks who are going to qq :P
I usually run with a demo lock so keep searing down :D great dps boost hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elemental shamans are fun to play! you can easily tell the difference between a good and great one! <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I usually let my flameshock tick for its last duration then re-apply and lavaburst. </p>
<p>Sacrificing ToW for fire ele is ok if there isnt 5 mages/warlocks who are going to qq <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I usually run with a demo lock so keep searing down <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  great dps boost hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/dps-isnt-as-easy-as-you-might-think/comment-page-1/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lath actually tried a Hunter once... got it to level 20 or so? Melee are definitely out for her - we both started on melee characters and we both hate em now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lath actually tried a Hunter once&#8230; got it to level 20 or so? Melee are definitely out for her &#8211; we both started on melee characters and we both hate em now <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PapaNasty</title>
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		<dc:creator>PapaNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah some people just attract &quot;bad luck&quot; when they are doing something out of the norm.  Others seem to be good at everything, I think a lot of it depends on what you&#039;ve played previously, and what class you&#039;re trying to dps as.

Since shadow priests are pretty hard to dps as though, so I&#039;m not surprised that Lath had trouble, since there&#039;s soo many dots and cooldowns to monitor.  On the other hand, Hunters and Ret Paladins are easy peasy to play, since they are just a priority system, thus you just hit each ability once it&#039;s off cooldown :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah some people just attract &#8220;bad luck&#8221; when they are doing something out of the norm.  Others seem to be good at everything, I think a lot of it depends on what you&#8217;ve played previously, and what class you&#8217;re trying to dps as.</p>
<p>Since shadow priests are pretty hard to dps as though, so I&#8217;m not surprised that Lath had trouble, since there&#8217;s soo many dots and cooldowns to monitor.  On the other hand, Hunters and Ret Paladins are easy peasy to play, since they are just a priority system, thus you just hit each ability once it&#8217;s off cooldown <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in every guild there&#039;s a few tanks and healers that you beg NOT to dps. We also used to have a previously prot Warrior, now DPS, that we begged NOT to tank. Because even when they&#039;re doing an OK job, things just seem to go wrong overall.

Lath is one of those. Yes, poor Lath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in every guild there&#8217;s a few tanks and healers that you beg NOT to dps. We also used to have a previously prot Warrior, now DPS, that we begged NOT to tank. Because even when they&#8217;re doing an OK job, things just seem to go wrong overall.</p>
<p>Lath is one of those. Yes, poor Lath.</p>
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