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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my. I must complain more often!

&quot;Royal Scepter of Terenas II: MP5 replaced with Haste Rating&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. I must complain more often!</p>
<p>&#8220;Royal Scepter of Terenas II: MP5 replaced with Haste Rating&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaNasty</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like some blues must read your blog Cass

lolz

http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/lich-king-weapons-changes-blue-posts/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like some blues must read your blog Cass</p>
<p>lolz</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/lich-king-weapons-changes-blue-posts/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/lich-king-weapons-changes-blue-posts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Whosmymain</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>Whosmymain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually thinking about this with necklaces in ICC10. Deathbringer Saurfang drops a great caster necklace with haste, spell power and crit—All great throughput stats for my resto shaman. On the other hand, it&#039;s a great necklace for just about every caster.

When I was looking at further loot to plan out what I want, I noticed that Rotface drops an mp5 necklace, and decided I&#039;d go for that instead. Why? Because I&#039;ll get more use out of mp5 than our DPS, who will get no use out of it.

Though, looking closer at both later, I noticed that the mp5 necklace has the same SP and more haste than the necklace from Saurfang, at the loss of crit. Yet, because it has mp5, none of our dps casters would consider it. I&#039;m not really sure the value of haste to our boomkin or warlock (as opposed to it being awesome for me), but it&#039;s interesting to me that regardless of whether it&#039;s better for them with the haste, they wouldn&#039;t take it because of the mp5.

Now of course, my guild needs to actually kill Rotface so I can loot that... :D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually thinking about this with necklaces in ICC10. Deathbringer Saurfang drops a great caster necklace with haste, spell power and crit—All great throughput stats for my resto shaman. On the other hand, it&#8217;s a great necklace for just about every caster.</p>
<p>When I was looking at further loot to plan out what I want, I noticed that Rotface drops an mp5 necklace, and decided I&#8217;d go for that instead. Why? Because I&#8217;ll get more use out of mp5 than our DPS, who will get no use out of it.</p>
<p>Though, looking closer at both later, I noticed that the mp5 necklace has the same SP and more haste than the necklace from Saurfang, at the loss of crit. Yet, because it has mp5, none of our dps casters would consider it. I&#8217;m not really sure the value of haste to our boomkin or warlock (as opposed to it being awesome for me), but it&#8217;s interesting to me that regardless of whether it&#8217;s better for them with the haste, they wouldn&#8217;t take it because of the mp5.</p>
<p>Now of course, my guild needs to actually kill Rotface so I can loot that&#8230; <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the stat changes from Cata stop giving a hodgepodge of stats on items that lead to all this confusion, then there might be hope.  Otherwise...

Example:
Dagger drops with Sta/Int/Spr ... every caster is going to roll on that since 2 of 3 stats convert to SP/Hit/Mp5/Crit/Haste based on talents from all that I&#039;ve read.  

That&#039;s before you get into the whole reallocation of stats through some of the crafting professions.  I can just see a rogue arguing that he can convert that Spr into Agi and it would be an upgrade, so now he gets into the mix along with all the casters.

I&#039;d prefer if Blizz would just label weapons as tank/melee dps/range dps/healer/spell dps and hang the stats as the deciding factor.  At least then we could argue with Blizz that their definition of X is wrong because the stats don&#039;t make sense.  I can argue with Blizzard easier than I can with every armchair statistician in the raid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the stat changes from Cata stop giving a hodgepodge of stats on items that lead to all this confusion, then there might be hope.  Otherwise&#8230;</p>
<p>Example:<br />
Dagger drops with Sta/Int/Spr &#8230; every caster is going to roll on that since 2 of 3 stats convert to SP/Hit/Mp5/Crit/Haste based on talents from all that I&#8217;ve read.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s before you get into the whole reallocation of stats through some of the crafting professions.  I can just see a rogue arguing that he can convert that Spr into Agi and it would be an upgrade, so now he gets into the mix along with all the casters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer if Blizz would just label weapons as tank/melee dps/range dps/healer/spell dps and hang the stats as the deciding factor.  At least then we could argue with Blizz that their definition of X is wrong because the stats don&#8217;t make sense.  I can argue with Blizzard easier than I can with every armchair statistician in the raid.</p>
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		<title>By: Vok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye, I actually wouldn&#039;t mind having a little hit on my healing items. I tend to throw out a Flame Shock pretty regularly in fights and a Lava Burst when nothing is happening. For the first half of Deathbringer I&#039;m pretty much a DPSer until the first debuff appears.

It&#039;s also a pretty close race between MP5 and Intell as far as Mana Regen goes for Resto Shaman. I do like having MP5 on my gear. And Intell. And Haste, Crit, SP, Stam, a touch of hit would be nice and some gems slots.....

Guess it&#039;ll all change some Cataclysm though
.-= Vok&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://unrealrealities.com/?p=2394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spotlight on : Hitmeagain&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye, I actually wouldn&#8217;t mind having a little hit on my healing items. I tend to throw out a Flame Shock pretty regularly in fights and a Lava Burst when nothing is happening. For the first half of Deathbringer I&#8217;m pretty much a DPSer until the first debuff appears.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a pretty close race between MP5 and Intell as far as Mana Regen goes for Resto Shaman. I do like having MP5 on my gear. And Intell. And Haste, Crit, SP, Stam, a touch of hit would be nice and some gems slots&#8230;..</p>
<p>Guess it&#8217;ll all change some Cataclysm though<br />
.-= Vok&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://unrealrealities.com/?p=2394" rel="nofollow">Spotlight on : Hitmeagain</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nazaniel Actually I wasn&#039;t really thinking just about the healing class when I said &quot;casters&quot; there, I was thinking: Mages, Warlocks, Priest, Druids. But you&#039;re quite right both Elemental, Restoration Shamans and Holy Paladins have no use for Spirit whatsoever.

Have amended to read &quot;Most of us&quot;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nazaniel Actually I wasn&#8217;t really thinking just about the healing class when I said &#8220;casters&#8221; there, I was thinking: Mages, Warlocks, Priest, Druids. But you&#8217;re quite right both Elemental, Restoration Shamans and Holy Paladins have no use for Spirit whatsoever.</p>
<p>Have amended to read &#8220;Most of us&#8221;. <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nazaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nazaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough*  Just for the record:
&quot;I don’t understand it. Healers and casters alike love Haste. We all love Critical Strike rating. We all love Spirit (to differing degrees, yes). The only stat that you can put on a caster weapon that will turn the healers away is Hit Rating.&quot;

That&#039;s true for healers of the druid and priestly persuasions, but not for pallies and shamans.  Spirit is just as much of a turn-off as hit is for us!
.-= Nazaniel&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://unrealrealities.com/?p=2394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spotlight on : Hitmeagain&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cough*  Just for the record:<br />
&#8220;I don’t understand it. Healers and casters alike love Haste. We all love Critical Strike rating. We all love Spirit (to differing degrees, yes). The only stat that you can put on a caster weapon that will turn the healers away is Hit Rating.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true for healers of the druid and priestly persuasions, but not for pallies and shamans.  Spirit is just as much of a turn-off as hit is for us!<br />
.-= Nazaniel&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://unrealrealities.com/?p=2394" rel="nofollow">Spotlight on : Hitmeagain</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And at the end of the day:

I don&#039;t want a healer weapon. If I can&#039;t have the same weapon that Mages and Warlocks get, I want one that&#039;s just as good!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And at the end of the day:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want a healer weapon. If I can&#8217;t have the same weapon that Mages and Warlocks get, I want one that&#8217;s just as good!<br />
.-= Cassandri&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/" rel="nofollow">But I Can’t Use a Sword?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Oleander Even though the staff has crit/sp instead of mp5/sp it&#039;s loaded with spirit and overall is still worse for Shadow Priests than a main hand + offhand combination (which always nets you a greater amount of spellpower).

@Jurik You&#039;re completely right. Mp5 might be only beneficial for healers, but it&#039;s not even a stat that most healers really want. All Lath ever talks about it haste, haste, haste!

@SlikRX Fortunately the guild I&#039;m in believes in the free-for-all type approach and there is very little loot restrictions. But previous guilds I&#039;ve been in have really had some major &quot;No, that&#039;s a Hunter weapon, not a Feral Druid weapon&quot; type arguments. Usually caused when one of the officers is of X class and doesn&#039;t understand the point of view of Y class. 

But because I&#039;ve been in guilds like that, even though the rules aren&#039;t stopping me in my current guild, I know that rolling on a &quot;healer&quot; weapon DOES cause animosity. Even if it&#039;s unspoken.
.-= Cassandri&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But I Can’t Use a Sword?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oleander Even though the staff has crit/sp instead of mp5/sp it&#8217;s loaded with spirit and overall is still worse for Shadow Priests than a main hand + offhand combination (which always nets you a greater amount of spellpower).</p>
<p>@Jurik You&#8217;re completely right. Mp5 might be only beneficial for healers, but it&#8217;s not even a stat that most healers really want. All Lath ever talks about it haste, haste, haste!</p>
<p>@SlikRX Fortunately the guild I&#8217;m in believes in the free-for-all type approach and there is very little loot restrictions. But previous guilds I&#8217;ve been in have really had some major &#8220;No, that&#8217;s a Hunter weapon, not a Feral Druid weapon&#8221; type arguments. Usually caused when one of the officers is of X class and doesn&#8217;t understand the point of view of Y class. </p>
<p>But because I&#8217;ve been in guilds like that, even though the rules aren&#8217;t stopping me in my current guild, I know that rolling on a &#8220;healer&#8221; weapon DOES cause animosity. Even if it&#8217;s unspoken.<br />
.-= Cassandri&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://www.hotsdots.com/2010/02/but-i-cant-use-a-sword/" rel="nofollow">But I Can’t Use a Sword?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: SlikRX/Balthazario</title>
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		<dc:creator>SlikRX/Balthazario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sorry for the second post, but I forgot to mention: if  your guild is iffy about things like this, the time to bring up needing/bidding is on your forums/guild chat, before you get into the raid.

If your guild is being unreasonable about it, remind them that g/quit is there for a reason... (if you are willing to take it to that level)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sorry for the second post, but I forgot to mention: if  your guild is iffy about things like this, the time to bring up needing/bidding is on your forums/guild chat, before you get into the raid.</p>
<p>If your guild is being unreasonable about it, remind them that g/quit is there for a reason&#8230; (if you are willing to take it to that level)<br />
.-= SlikRX/Balthazario&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://bang-n-blame.blogspot.com/2010/01/spamlot-and-lance-lot.html" rel="nofollow">Spamalot! and Lance-a-lot</a> =-.</p>
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