HoTs and DoTs: A Restoration Druid and Shadow Priest

Sliding Doors

Do you ever wonder what might have been?

Do you ever wonder what might have been?

Vok, who plays on the same realm as us, ranted about Priests in his Healing Q&A. Obviously he’s played with some terrible Priests this expansion, none of which, it seems, can remember to click Fortitude. Or perhaps none that can afford candles.

But Vok doesn’t realise how close he came to raiding with me.

When Lathere and I needed a new guild at the start of Wrath we came as a linked pair. A buy one, get one free type deal (I think Lath was the one they were buying and I was the freebie). We joined a raiding guild called Defiance – a step up for us, or so we thought. Some of our other friends followed us and we were happy to have them with us.

But I wasn’t happy in Defiance from day 1. I argued endlessly for reform. Their DKP rules were grossly unfair to newcomers and favoured officers and long term players (even ones who I’d never even raided with). And the prospect of winning cloth armor seemed hopeless. There were no rules to protect us from leather/mail/plate wearers and the raid was lousy with Warlocks, Mages and Priests. I won more gear from PuGs than I did from guild runs.

The night we first stepped foot in Ulduar I gquit. I’ll admit, it was a spur of the moment type thing. Yes, it was that bad. And Ulduar wasn’t as forgiving as Naxxramas. Lathere and 2 raiding friends of ours quit too.

We had no other guilds lined up. We were un-guilded. And we were a four package deal: me, Lathere, a Resto Shaman and a DK. And the guild that we just left? Hated my guts.

Remember how I said quitting was spur of the moment decision? Well the next day Lathere called me and gave me the older sister sensible speech which boils down to “how could you be so reckless? look at what you’ve done!”. While I had been ranting about unfair DKP rules and awarding loot to players who consistently disconnect for entire encounters, Lathere had been planning a more sensible exit strategy.

We both try to keep in touch with the nice people that we’ve raided with over years no matter where they go and it’s fair to say that there’s someone in most of the serious 25 man raiding guilds on Barthilas that we have some history with. Perhaps you could even go far enough to say “we have friends in high places”. Nah, that is going too far.

But Lath and I got talking and we soon realised there was really only a couple of guilds that we wanted to be part of.

One of those guilds had stolen two of my favourite people from me: a Hunter by the name of Stardown (back in the days of BC) and a Shaman by the name of Rumbrb (at the very start of Wrath). Stardown was Obsolete’s Hunter class lead and an officer. And he definitely deserved the position. If I wanted to wind down after a raid I would just ask Stardown a Huntery question, or use the words “Attack Power” in his presence, and the steady stream of numbers would put me right to sleep.

The other guild had coughed up an (alt) Protection Warrior who tanked with us in the Burning Crusade. He had managed to steal my best friend away from me in-game. For at least six months all I ever heard was “Caco and I are doing x instance” and “sorry Caco just invited me to do something”. Tanks and their healers. What can you do? Anyway I figured if Maria liked him, he must be alright. Caco returned his alt to his raiding guild, Vitare, in Wrath and became an officer.

And do you know, while I’m writing this, I just realised they have the exact same first name in real life? I’ll give you a hint… it starts with the letter m.

There were actually two other potential guilds that we considered less seriously:

One guild had pinched another one of my favourite people, a Mage. I still remember the first conversation I had with Majesty on-flight to Tempest Keep. And it still makes me smile. Unfortunately the guild he joined in Wrath, Exiztence, also contained the most annoying player (and a Priest! for shame!) on the server. Plus they seemed like tight-asses. So they were out.

The last guild we considered, Annexation, had grabbed up quite a few (at least five, I think) of our players at the start of Wrath just at the time when we were desperately trying to get consistent numbers for 25 man raids. I’ve always thought of them as poaching our players. So they were out, too.

So I logged in the day after we /gquit and Caco, from Vitare, whispered me within minutes:

“So I heard you left Defiance…”

Stardown, from Obsolete, didn’t log in until an hour later. He offered us a place in their next guild raid and a standing invitation to join Obsolete. But by then I was already somewhat committed to our (at the time not yet written) Vitare application. I politely refused his offer to raid with them because I didn’t want to be saved in case Vitare wanted to bring me to a trial raid that same week.

So we joined Vitare. And we’re still there.

Annexxation disbanded. All our friends/guild members who left us for Annexation are now in another guild altogether. They’re doing quite well.

Exiztence very nearly disbanded. Or disbanded and reformed. It’s hard to tell. A chunk of their raiding team left to start their own, extremely successful, guild. Several of their members, including my friend Maj, changed factions and joined a successful Horde guild on Barthilas. I’m still a bit sad that I can’t chat with him anymore.

Obsolete have had a rocky time of it, too. They had their GM step down. At one point it looked as though they were going to stop running 25 mans altogether. And it seemed as though they were forever recruiting a decent Priest (which explains Vok’s hatred towards Priests). My friend Stardown stopped playing WoW while we were all still in our Trial period with Vitare. My friend Rumbrb no longer raids 25 mans and raids 10 mans instead with some of the original Obsolete raiders.

And Vitare? Doing better than I had ever hoped.

But I can’t help but think how different it could have turned out. If Caco hadn’t been online when I logged in that day and it had been Stardown who asked first? We would have joined Obsolete, I’m sure of it.

Do you have your own World of Warcraft sliding doors moment? One decision, or a twist of fate that lead you in a completely new direction?

7 Responses to “Sliding Doors”

  1. VokNo Gravatar says

    Ulduar eh? That was about the time I became Guild Leader of Obsolete. We picked up a good priest around then too, Fatpanda. He was, infact, an exception player. He quit WoW about six weeks after he joined….

    One can’t help but wonder how having you guys join would have changed the fate of Obsolete as well. When I was Guild Leader we always seemed about three or four players from being where we needed to be.

    But then, I’ve got a whole new lease of life WoW thanks to my 10-man group and Vitare seem to be travelling VERY nicely at the moment, so all it well that ends well.

    Also – It’s only Holy Priests I have an unholy rage towards. Shadow and Disc are ok with me!
    .-= Vok’s last blog … The Heart of the Lich King =-.

  2. ZahrahNo Gravatar says

    Im hoping to create my own sliding door – just left a well placed just down twins on H 25 Toc guild where I was the only raiding shadow priest to go to a server to be with a bunch of people i like.. I hope I don’t regret it!
    .-= Zahrah’s last blog … That Pvp Experience – now on my realm. =-.

  3. JaediaNo Gravatar says

    You know what, I was in an amazing guild in TBC. It didn’t have the best progress, I mean, they reached BT/MH before the attunement was removed and that was awesome to me back when I was raiding Kara and TK/SSC. The DKP rules were almost perfect. They worked on a bidding system, so if something would otherwise be disenchanted because nobody wanted to waste all of their DKP on it, it could go for a lot less than it would if we used fixed DKP. This benfitted all members, because anybody who wanted an item could bid on it. Of course, members had priority over casuals and trialists, but that’s normal. Nobody, complained, everyone was happy with that. The progression through BT and Sunwell was fun, we had a laugh in raids, hell, we had guild meetups in London which were FUN. Sadly, in Wrath, it was overrun by idiots who spend too much time on 4chan. No other guild really compares.. except Endure, I was in a guild late Naxx/early Ulduar, and I loved it until I grew bored of raiding. Sadly, both my TBC guild, and Endure, are no longer raiding.

    I now want a new server, a fresh start, a new guild, but a fair guild, no more loot councils.. I’ve come to be very fond of DKP systems, difficult to corrupt them compared with loot councils. I’d like the idiots to be semi-under control, raids to be fun, and progression to be average. So, I have to traipse through the realm forums, finding my “perfect” guild, and one which needs a decent hunter at that *sigh*

    This will be my sliding doors moment, but hopefully nothing like the movie.
    .-= Jaedia’s last blog … Squeezing the DPS =-.

  4. Something similar happened to my group of friends and I. Our BC raiding guild was falling apart after clearing Naxx. There is was the “clique” group of six or seven of us. I feel like an elitist jerk to say, but we were the glue in that guild. While I was on break from raiding with that guild, and leveling my druid (she was alliance atm) to 80, they gquit. I came back on my pally to find everyone had left. I immediately gquit. All but myself and another incredibly good mage, Don, were guildless. Team-clique had gottten into Centuria, which was fast becoming the best horde guild on the server. I apped and it seemed like forever to get in. I even was in a couple little guilds here and there and people wanting me, but I wanted in with my friends.
    Seems everyone has had these similar situations. :) Glad everyone finally finds their niche.
    .-= Sushicookie’s last blog … ToC or Ulduar? =-.

  5. UltraNo Gravatar says

    When BC hit and everybody was hitting level 70 I had a huge responsibility. My guild I had been an officer in all through out vanilla on my druid disbanded people looked to myself and twin brother to make a guild… and we did!

    Soon after the disband we started getting people together to form a super guild! which is now known as Visage on jubei’thos! we cleared all BC content too :D that was the most fun i’ve ever had raiding and I was so sad when Ulduar was released and 4 of my officer friends quit the game. Hence why I transferred to barth you play with Vitare.

    I can’t wait for Icecrown Citadel, raiding with vitare will be so enjoyable and I think we’re slowly getting a strong competent core together for it …

    But like you if my friend from barthilas (Doli) didnt talk to me on msn that night saying guilds need shamans I would most likely never have transfered ):


  6. lissannaNo Gravatar says

    You should post this as a Blog Azeroth shared topic. :)

  7. ArchivistNo Gravatar says

    Reading various WoW blogs, I realize how very lucky I am. I joined a guild at the start of WoW because they had a name from the Simpsons, and my friend and I thought it was cool.

    Our guild is the last guild on Uther – horde to be originally from the start of the game. We are fairly casual, raiding 3 nights per week but we make excellent progress as the top ranked casual guild on our server.

    We have had plenty of drama and the guild has almost imploded once or twice, but thankfully we’ve been consistent. I don’t really know what I would do in WoW if I were not in that guild, as my experience of WoW has become very much linked with the fun we have in guild.

    I have left the guild twice to try other ones for short periods of time. While the other guilds were great, I was glad to return to my original each time.

    I guess the main point behind my response is to say that it really is a good feeling when you find a guild to call “home”, and it really does make the game so much more fun.


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