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		<title>By: Heavyweight Champion of Dalaran</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavyweight Champion of Dalaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my recent vow to gear up a bit more quickly I started to accumulate a significant number of gems from honor and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not uncommon (especially when we scale back on healers for Ulduar) to have a healer with me in Shadowform as their offspec. That&#039;s never bothered me. Well actually, hearing Mind Flay when it&#039;s not my own, does confuse me a little bit. Just a little.

I guess I always try to one-up myself. I know when my timing is a bit off and I reapply VT too soon, or when not one of my targets has had Dev Plague applied for quite some time... And I know when I&#039;ve done everything just right and every DoT has rolled on/off seamlessly.

But now the Damage Meter has real significance post-encounter. I don&#039;t like that part at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not uncommon (especially when we scale back on healers for Ulduar) to have a healer with me in Shadowform as their offspec. That&#8217;s never bothered me. Well actually, hearing Mind Flay when it&#8217;s not my own, does confuse me a little bit. Just a little.</p>
<p>I guess I always try to one-up myself. I know when my timing is a bit off and I reapply VT too soon, or when not one of my targets has had Dev Plague applied for quite some time&#8230; And I know when I&#8217;ve done everything just right and every DoT has rolled on/off seamlessly.</p>
<p>But now the Damage Meter has real significance post-encounter. I don&#8217;t like that part at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Zahrah</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Zahrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like having competition because It makes me non complacent, and wanting to be better.  I get the occasional challange with a holy priest that has shadow offspec, I have to contend with beating our mages, warlocks and Shammys though in the interim.  Having gone from one of three sp&#039;s though to now the only one that raids as Shadow fulltime,  I do admit that   being the only has been nice..  and even nicer when I can kick the other classes butts on the metres  -  Shadow power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like having competition because It makes me non complacent, and wanting to be better.  I get the occasional challange with a holy priest that has shadow offspec, I have to contend with beating our mages, warlocks and Shammys though in the interim.  Having gone from one of three sp&#8217;s though to now the only one that raids as Shadow fulltime,  I do admit that   being the only has been nice..  and even nicer when I can kick the other classes butts on the metres  &#8211;  Shadow power!</p>
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		<title>By: cubby</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>cubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cass you are irreplaceable!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cass you are irreplaceable!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kithain</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Kithain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if you already know this, but try to bribe the raid leader to make sure you&#039;re on dark essence most of the time so you get powerups from your SWD self-damage. Depends on the strat you&#039;ll be following I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if you already know this, but try to bribe the raid leader to make sure you&#8217;re on dark essence most of the time so you get powerups from your SWD self-damage. Depends on the strat you&#8217;ll be following I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Adgamorix</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Adgamorix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye - that&#039;s why I said to just cast it at the start....but...

Let&#039;s say you have the white aura and you put SW:P and whatever other DoT you can on the Dark Twin.  Then you switch to the Dark Aura and go full tilt boogey on the Light Twin.  I don&#039;t know for sure, but I believe that if you refresh the SW:P (Doesn&#039;t one roll of Mind Flay refresh the DOT?) it keeps ticking at the original potency - not at 1/2 damage.

Then again - it may be just not worth the pain.

Don&#039;t spend a lot of time running around for orbs - otherwise you&#039;ll wind up like this Ele shaman in our PUG last night - you spend so much time trying to buff your DPS, that you do less DPS than the tank.

All in all - it&#039;s a fun fight.  Enjoy!
.-= Adgamorix&#039;s last blog ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://paladindivineplea.blogspot.com/2009/10/divine-sacrifice-nerfbufffix.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Divine Sacrifice Nerf/Buff/Fix&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye &#8211; that&#8217;s why I said to just cast it at the start&#8230;.but&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you have the white aura and you put SW:P and whatever other DoT you can on the Dark Twin.  Then you switch to the Dark Aura and go full tilt boogey on the Light Twin.  I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I believe that if you refresh the SW:P (Doesn&#8217;t one roll of Mind Flay refresh the DOT?) it keeps ticking at the original potency &#8211; not at 1/2 damage.</p>
<p>Then again &#8211; it may be just not worth the pain.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t spend a lot of time running around for orbs &#8211; otherwise you&#8217;ll wind up like this Ele shaman in our PUG last night &#8211; you spend so much time trying to buff your DPS, that you do less DPS than the tank.</p>
<p>All in all &#8211; it&#8217;s a fun fight.  Enjoy!<br />
.-= Adgamorix&#8217;s last blog &#8230; <a href="http://paladindivineplea.blogspot.com/2009/10/divine-sacrifice-nerfbufffix.html" rel="nofollow">Divine Sacrifice Nerf/Buff/Fix</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well aside from Shadow Word: Pain you have to recast your other DoTs. The others last 15-20 sec.

So if I swap to cast Vamp Touch on Lightbane chicky with Light Essence wouldn&#039;t it only do half damage for the next 15 sec? In that time I could be casting more spells on the dark twin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well aside from Shadow Word: Pain you have to recast your other DoTs. The others last 15-20 sec.</p>
<p>So if I swap to cast Vamp Touch on Lightbane chicky with Light Essence wouldn&#8217;t it only do half damage for the next 15 sec? In that time I could be casting more spells on the dark twin.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaNasty</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cass, don&#039;t your dots stay at the +% dmg increase which you have when you first put them up? (Even if the +% increase drops off later on)

I might have misinterpreted this tho when schadow told me  tho (I asked him for a 2min description on how to play shadow for my priest before I started lvling to 80 lolz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cass, don&#8217;t your dots stay at the +% dmg increase which you have when you first put them up? (Even if the +% increase drops off later on)</p>
<p>I might have misinterpreted this tho when schadow told me  tho (I asked him for a 2min description on how to play shadow for my priest before I started lvling to 80 lolz)</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment I keep SW:P &amp; Vamp on both twins regardless of my own debuff... but that&#039;s wasting 3.5 seconds or so each ... 15 seconds or so ... for half returns.

@Papa There&#039;s no way I can capture, let alone edit, a video to turn out that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment I keep SW:P &#038; Vamp on both twins regardless of my own debuff&#8230; but that&#8217;s wasting 3.5 seconds or so each &#8230; 15 seconds or so &#8230; for half returns.</p>
<p>@Papa There&#8217;s no way I can capture, let alone edit, a video to turn out that good.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaNasty</title>
		<link>http://www.hotsdots.com/2009/10/the-end-of-an-era/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those videos you linked were epic, if you ever want to make one up yourself and need a hand, just give me a yell, and I&#039;m sure that our 10man group would all help out if you wanted to make one, might even be enough keen that we could do a 25man of it.

Although of course, any movie needs a star, someone who is a Champion of the Light, a Crusader against the Dark and a Protector of Virtue.  As it so happens, I know someone who fits the build :)

But yeah, having the other shadowpriest in there will be good, if you work as a team on how to maximise your dps for each fight, you should be able to push the pure dps classes a bit harder.  Hehe and you have almost as much dkp as random, so if you want gear I&#039;m sure it won&#039;t be a problem :)  Although you&#039;ll get decked out without spending any dkp just from 10s probably anyway :)

Keeping both SW:P on twins sounds like it&#039;d be pretty mad too so long as you remember to keep it refreshed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those videos you linked were epic, if you ever want to make one up yourself and need a hand, just give me a yell, and I&#8217;m sure that our 10man group would all help out if you wanted to make one, might even be enough keen that we could do a 25man of it.</p>
<p>Although of course, any movie needs a star, someone who is a Champion of the Light, a Crusader against the Dark and a Protector of Virtue.  As it so happens, I know someone who fits the build <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But yeah, having the other shadowpriest in there will be good, if you work as a team on how to maximise your dps for each fight, you should be able to push the pure dps classes a bit harder.  Hehe and you have almost as much dkp as random, so if you want gear I&#8217;m sure it won&#8217;t be a problem <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Although you&#8217;ll get decked out without spending any dkp just from 10s probably anyway <img src='http://www.hotsdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keeping both SW:P on twins sounds like it&#8217;d be pretty mad too so long as you remember to keep it refreshed.</p>
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